The other talk Reckoning with our white privilege

Brendan Kiely, 1977-

Book - 2021

"All too many kids of color get 'the talk.' The talk about where to keep their hands, how to wear their clothes, how to speak, how to act around police-an honest talk, a talk about survival in a racist world. The get "the talk" because they must. But white kids don't get this talk. Instead, they're barely spoken to about race at all-and that needs to change. The Other Talk begins this much-needed conversation for white kids. In an accessible, anecdotal, and honest account from his own life, Brendan Kiely introduces young readers to white privilege, unconscious bias, and allyship-because racism isn't just an issue for people of color, it's an issue white people have to deal with, too, and it'...s time we all start doing our part"--

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Subjects
Genres
Young adult nonfiction
Published
New York : Atheneum, an imprint of Simon & Schuster Children's Publishing Division [2021]
Language
English
Main Author
Brendan Kiely, 1977- (author)
Other Authors
Sean Williams (illustrator), Jason Reynolds (writer of introduction)
Edition
First edition
Item Description
On title page, the word "my" is struck out and overlaid with the word "our."
"A Caitlyn Dlouhy Book."
Physical Description
xviii, 253 pages ; 22 cm
Audience
Ages 12 up.
Bibliography
Includes bibliographic references (pages 227-247).
ISBN
9781534494046
9781534494053
  • An Introduction
  • 1. Bottle of Nesquick, Bottle of Long Since Forgotten
  • 2. Two Americas
  • 3. So What Is This Talk I Never Got?
  • 4. How I Tell a Story
  • 5. White Boy
  • 6. Chicken-and-Egg Problem ... Solved!
  • 7. Cheating to Win
  • 8. History Lives in the Present
  • 9. The Entire System Is Rigged
  • 10. Ninja Runs
  • 11. Hard Look in the Mirror
  • Interruption
  • 12. What Bullying Looks Like ... to a Whole Community
  • 13. So Step Up!
  • 14. Well, Actually, Hang on a Second ... Step Back
  • 15. Messing Up
  • 16. Messing Up ... and Listening
  • 17. Who?
  • 18. Listening ... without Getting Defensive
  • 19. Listening ... and Believing
  • 20. Taking Action
  • Author's Note
  • Acknowledgments
  • Endnotes
  • Some People I Listened to and Learned from Who Influenced the Writing of This Book
Review by Booklist Review

Alluding to "The Talk," a discussion many parents of color have with their children about the dangers of racism, Kiely presents his own thought-provoking talk about racism to white teen readers. Following an introduction by Jason Reynolds, who cowrote the Coretta Scott King Award-winning All American Boys (2015) with Kiely, the author opens with stories of two teens, one Black and one white, at convenience stores. By the end of the night, the innocent Black teen would be shot dead because of his skin color; the white teen (who Kiely reveals to be his younger self) would steal a drink and get away with it because no one saw him as a threat. Using a direct, conversational style, Kiely expands on this story and adds more unflinching ones along the way as he explains white privilege and how the social construct of race was developed. He also includes a wealth of data and examples to describe how systemic racism has impacted all areas of society, from education and business to housing and health care. In the latter part of the book, Kiely implores young white people to recognize their own privilege and stand up to racism, emphasizing that sometimes the best way to step up is to first listen to those affected. A heartfelt, motivating, and necessary call to action.

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Review by Publisher's Weekly Review

This approachable memoir and guide, comprising Kiely's own experiences relating to race and allyship, is a welcome tool to help facilitate conversations with white teenagers about white privilege, and the ongoing journey to become effective allies to those in the "Global Majority," on both a personal and systemic level. By openly detailing personal missteps--from participating in "ninja runs" to jokingly terrorize his neighborhood with fellow white friends, to "recklessly minivanning" down the highway with no consequences save for a "tender" warning from a police officer--Kiely creates a judgment-free space, skillfully demonstrating that there "are two different Americas, divided by racism" and that honestly addressing the realities of whiteness is imperative "to do better than our past." Conversationally addressing common arguments that white people employ during "uncomfortable" discussions on race and privilege, Kiely shuts down justifications with directly applicable data; concrete definitions of terms and ideas, such as cultural ethnicity and race; and anecdotes that both address reader questions and provide the language and encouragement to dig deeper, ask questions, and become coconspirators in the fight for equity and equality. Front matter features an introduction by Jason Reynolds; back matter features an author's note, endnotes, and bibliography. Ages 12--up. Agent: Rob Weisbach, Rob Weisbach Creative Management. (Sept.)

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Review by Horn Book Review

An introduction by Jason Reynolds, coauthor with Kiely of All American Boys (rev. 11/15), begins this honest and informative reflection on what it means to be white -- and a call for white readers to take anti-racist action. After stating that conversations about race and racism often occur between caregivers and children of the Global Majority (the term Kiely uses throughout), the author opens the door to a conversation on whiteness for an assumed white readership. Using the first-person perspective, and with a casual tone but a deliberate use of language, the author relates personal stories, while acknowledging the contradictions of his authorship and of de-centering whiteness. Voices of youth and of those not always recognized by mainstream society are celebrated. Section breaks pace readers and invite them to pause and reflect; questions offer further opportunities for reader engagement. Kiely carefully scaffolds content, embraces discomfort, rejects either/or binaries, and owns his mistake-making: "I know I'm not going to get everything right. But I think I have to try." Charts and timelines showcase facts about history and racist systems and institutions; extensive back matter is included. Throughout this heartfelt model of white racial identity development, the emphasis remains on self-interrogation, group responsibility, and anti-racist accountability. elisa gall January/February 2022 p.134(c) Copyright 2022. The Horn Book, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Media Source, Inc. No redistribution permitted.

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Review by Kirkus Book Review

White people don't need to have "The Talk" about how to survive racism--they need to have a different talk about taking responsibility for and trying to change it. Jason Reynolds introduces this informal memoir about young adult author Kiely's experiences of Whiteness, which also serves as a call to action for White people to make similar reckonings. With humility and feeling, Kiely narrates his growing understanding of White privilege: that "what we've earned often comes at the expense of other people not being able to earn it as easily." He mixes pithy anecdotes from his own life with trenchant statistics and historical context that make clear the huge extent to which people in power have "legalized, institutionalized, and systematized racism in America." One section lays out all the opportunities Kiely's White grandfather had to build wealth for his family, starting with the GI Bill, alongside all the ways these opportunities were denied to veterans of the Global Majority (a phrase he credits learning from Tiffany Jewell's This Book Is Anti-Racist). His personal stories are equally demonstrative: When teenage Kiely was pulled over for reckless speeding, the police officer let him off with caring, paternal instructions to "go home, be safe, and keep your friends safe." Kiely doesn't mince words when it comes to accountability, but his conversational tone invites readers to grow with him. Well-executed and long overdue. (author's note, endnotes, bibliography) (Nonfiction. 12-18) Copyright (c) Kirkus Reviews, used with permission.

Copyright (c) Kirkus Reviews, used with permission.

Chapter 1: Bottle of Nesquik, Bottle of Long Since Forgotten 1 Bottle of Nesquik, Bottle of Long Since Forgotten Here's the situation: Two teenagers go to a convenience store. Actually, two different convenience stores. Kid A is in a car that pulls up outside one at a gas station in Jacksonville, Florida. Music's bumping. Got "Beef" by Lil Reese, Lil Durk, and Fredo Santana cued up on the playlist. Kid B walks into one on a busy street near Boston, Massachusetts. Headphones on. Head bobbing to A Tribe Called Quest's "Can I Kick It?" Yes you can, he mouths along as he pulls open the glass door. Kid A's there with three friends. One of them goes into the store to grab some snacks and a bottle of something long since forgotten. Kid B's there to get a bottle of Strawberry Nesquik. They're just two kids, two kids loving their music and going to the convenience store--but then everything changes. Kid A's waiting in the car. "Beef" blasting. He's out with friends. They're having a good time. Kid B, though, grabs his bright yellow bottle of Nesquik and slips it into the folds of his puffy down coat. Yes you can! Then he strolls right out the door without looking back. He hasn't paid for the Strawberry Nesquik. He's stolen it. And he's done this before. He's got a crush on a girl who loves Strawberry Nesquik (even though it's gross--and it is --it's gross!), and he loves giving her a bottle in the hallway before homeroom because he likes the coconut smell of her hair and the way her high-sprayed bangs rise off her forehead like a flag. He likes the way roller coasters run wild loops through his gut whenever their eyes meet. He gives her one of these stolen bottles of Strawberry Nesquik about once a week, maybe more, and he's been doing it for the past month. He hasn't thought twice about the people in the store. Or anybody else, really. Just the girl with the bangs climbing toward the sky. More than one thousand miles south on Route 95, Kid A's bumping to the music with his buddies, still waiting for the friend in the store, when a car pulls up beside them. The two adults in the car start giving the friends dirty looks. The clock starts ticking. In three and half minutes everything will be different. Lives will have changed. But when the car pulls up, Kid A has no idea. All he sees are the scowls. Scowls he's seen before. He's not doing anything wrong. He's just a kid and his music is loud. And if the adults would just take a breath and let it go, let this boy be a kid and let his too-loud music thump, only a few minutes later his car would be gone, the music would be gone, and there'd be no story to tell. Instead, the woman in the car opens her door, and before she leaves to go into the store, the man who's with her turns to her and says, "I hate this thug music." This man, the scowler, starts yelling at Kid A and his friends, starts calling them names. One of Kid A's friends turns down the music, but Kid A's sick of the scowler's scowls. Sick of the way this man, this adult, keeps talking to him, so he turns the music back up and tries to drown him out. Tries to drown out everything the man's saying. Those scowls. Those kinds of arguments. He's all too used to them. He's heard it all before, and all too often, he's heard the slurs and the name-calling that follows. He's heard it all before and he's heard it enough--so up goes the music, bass rattling the car doors. Up goes his voice too, yelling back at the man, matching him insult for insult. But the clock is still ticking. The clock is still ticking when Kid A's friend comes out of the convenience store and gets back in the car. The clock's still ticking as Kid A and the man keep yelling, their voices loud enough to climb up and over the music. The clock's still ticking when the adult man shouts at Kid A, "You aren't going to talk to me like that." And it's supposed to be kids driving around through the night, shouting their lyrics-- In the field, we play for keeps/I'm out here, no hide-and-seek --like kids all over the country do, are doing, will do later. The clock is still ticking when the man reaches into his glove compartment and pulls out a 9 mm pistol--and then everything goes into hyperspeed. He fires. The man fires and fires. Bullets crash through the door beside Kid A. Bullets rip through the car around and into Kid A. Bullets explode and crack open the night as the kids throw the car into reverse, try to escape, but the man steps out of his own car, crouches in a shooting stance, and fires and fires and fires. Ten bullets in all. The clock only stops ticking when the kids pull into a nearby parking lot and find Kid A gasping for air. Losing his breath. No chance to drink that bottle of who-knows-what soda or whatever as his blood spills across the car seats, down onto the concrete, where it stains the parking lot, the whole town, the whole state, the whole country, because Kid A's blood is the blood of another innocent, unarmed child who has been called names, called all kinds of things, like a thug, and who hasn't done anything illegal, hasn't done anything wrong, except be a kid--and murdered all the same. Kid B's the one who did something wrong. Kid B's the one who did something illegal. Kid B's the actual thief. But nobody's ever called him one. Nobody knows he is one. Because nobody's ever even suspected he's one. In fact, later that spring, when Kid B is working for a talent agency in Boston, auditioning to model for a series of magazine ads, the casting director will lean forward and say to Kid B, "Hey, yeah, we definitely want you. You look like the kid next door. You look like the all-American boy." Now let me tell you more about Kid A. He was someone's son. He liked Jacksonville, where he lived. He liked to play basketball and PlayStation. But his singular passion was music. All the music. In the field, we play for keeps... Making mixes for his buddies. He had dreams and family and friends. You might say he was just another "all-American boy," except I fear not enough people told him that. The adults who pulled up in the car beside him certainly didn't. That man took one look at Kid A and suspected ... assumed ... profiled Kid A as a "thug." As someone who was up to no good. Even though he wasn't. The man prejudged Kid A--and his prejudice did all the thinking. And Kid A paid the price for it. But Kid A wasn't a thug. He wasn't a thief. Kid B was the thief. The way Kid B acted, you might call him the thug. But here's what else I have to tell you: Kid A was Black. And Kid A was a real person. His name was Jordan Davis. And Jordan Davis was murdered because of racial prejudice--because of racism. Kid B was white. And Kid B was a real person too. That kid? He's me. Brendan Kiely. I'm the thief. And I'm alive because... well, we're going to get to all that. Excerpted from The Other Talk: Reckoning with Our White Privilege by Brendan Kiely All rights reserved by the original copyright owners. Excerpts are provided for display purposes only and may not be reproduced, reprinted or distributed without the written permission of the publisher.