An atheist and a Christian walk into a bar.. Talking about God, the universe, and everything

Randal D. Rauser

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Published
Amherst, New York : Prometheus Books 2016.
Language
English
Main Author
Randal D. Rauser (author)
Other Authors
Justin Schieber, 1984- (author)
Physical Description
220 pages ; 23 cm
Bibliography
Includes bibliographical references (pages 209-217) and index.
ISBN
9781633882430
  • Acknowledgments
  • Introduction
  • Chapter 1. Why God Matters
  • Should You Care If God Exists?
  • Is God as Ridiculous as an Invisible Pink Unicorn?
  • How Do You Define God?
  • What about an Evil God?
  • A Debate about Mere (Classical) Theism
  • Should You Hope That God Exists?
  • Chapter 2. God, Faith, and Testimony
  • Good and Bad Faith
  • Defining Faith
  • Faith in the Messiness of Life
  • Faith in Your Sherpa
  • The Principle of Total Evidence
  • Faith in the Extraordinary
  • Chapter 3. The Problem of Massive Theological Disagreement
  • What Is Evidence?
  • Does Religion Lead to Violence?
  • Disagreement about Landlords, Parents, and God
  • The Argument from Massive Theological Disagreement (MTD)
  • Debating Premise One
  • Evaluating Premise Two
  • Relationship with God and Knowledge of God
  • Gould God Give Incompatible Revelations?
  • Doctrine and Salvation
  • Chapter 4. God and Moral Obligation
  • Setting Up the Moral Questions
  • Introducing Ethics and Desire
  • Debating Desirism
  • Unqualified Moral Judgments
  • Moral Perception
  • The Problem of Changing Moral Perception
  • The Faculty of Moral Perception and Desires
  • Moral Obligation and Moral Calling
  • Could God Command Something Morally Heinous?
  • Moral Knowledge and Skepticism
  • Chapter 5. The Problem of the Hostility of the Universe
  • A Most Unusual Birthday Gift
  • Theism, Anthropocentrism, and a Battle of Analogies
  • Why Would God Create a Hostile Universe?
  • Does Atheism Predict a Universe Less Hospitable to Life?
  • But Why Did God Create at All?
  • Chapter 6. God, Mathematics, and Reason
  • On the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics
  • Numerical Patterns as Architectural Motifs
  • Debating the Architectural Motif Argument
  • Why Explanations Need Not Have Their Own Explanation
  • The Mathematical Blueprint Argument
  • Chapter 7. Evolution and the Biological Role of Pain
  • Preliminary Comments on God, Evil, and Suffering
  • Evolution and Atheism: A Match Made in Heaven?
  • Atheistic Alternatives to Evolution?
  • New and Improved Competitors
  • Consciousness and Material Creation: Which Is More Surprising?
  • God's Hidden Reasons?
  • Into the Icy Depths of God's Hidden Reasons
  • Conclusion
  • Notes
  • Bibliography
  • Index
Review by Publisher's Weekly Review

Theology professor Rouser and YouTube personality Schieber offer complex, rigorous arguments that will challenge the thinking of believers and atheists alike. Through one long conversation presented in transcript form-complete with digressions and calls for clarification-the duo avoids the simplistic attacks or hasty reasoning found in many polemical works. Although Rauser speaks from a Christian perspective, the authors focus on a more inclusive classical theism: the notion that an omniscient, omnipotent, benevolent God exists. They argue about whether testimony is valid evidence, what the major theological disagreements between religions suggest, what the creator's seeming hostility to the universe means, whether the neat mathematical pattern of the universe proves intentional design, and how to best explain the problem of human suffering. The dialogue format lends authenticity but can become tedious, especially when either author cracks a joke. Though at times the philosophical talk gets thick, Rouser and Schieber are generally adept at unpacking concepts for nonexpert readers. They never reach consensus, but their model of listening to and respectfully challenging each other provides a refreshing, hospitable break from heavy-handed demonization and overly simplified apologetics. (Dec.) © Copyright PWxyz, LLC. All rights reserved.

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Review by Kirkus Book Review

In this 21st-century take on the long-standing tradition of philosophical dialogue, two intellectuals battle it out in the arena of ideas and witticisms.Unfortunately for readers, the resulting conversation is a rather unappealing combination of sophomoric jokes and theoretical conundrums. The work is neither insightful enough to engage those interested in the theoretical arguments behind theism and atheism, nor is it accessible enough to appeal to a broader audience. Thats not to say Rauser (Historical Theology/Taylor Seminary; Is the Atheist My Neighbor?: Rethinking Christian Attitudes Toward Atheism, 2015, etc.) and Schieber, an atheist lecturer and YouTube contributor, dont cover weighty topics. Among those is massive theological disagreementif God exists, why are ideas about his nature so thoroughly varied? Elsewhere, the question arises of why God would have created a universe that is almost entirely inhospitable toward the few sentient beings meant to worship him. Do the beauty and perfection of mathematics lead one to believe in a creating God, or is this simply a fortunate reality of existence? What does evolution teach us about the existence or nonexistence of God? Rauser and Schieber go back and forth with these and other topics but offer few conclusions. Their subject matter, however, is riddled with jokes, puns, and other attempts at humor and levity, which, if minimized, would have the desired effect of removing the loaded problem of argument from this age-old discussion. However, the authors take it too far. After countless lines like, I feel sick that my slick shtick doesnt stick, or, since the reader cant see me, let the record reflect that my eyebrows are rising in incredulity, readers will simply feel patronized. A good idea derailed for the sake of entertainment. Readers interested in this topic should turn to Gary Guttings Talking God: Philosophers on Belief (2016). Copyright Kirkus Reviews, used with permission.

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